by Redwing77
Let me be clear on a few things: First, I did not get to watch last weekend's series between UND and DU so I will not be specifically commenting on any plays or acts NOT embedded on this site. Second, I know I'm a frequent commentor about the poor quality of officiating but hear me out.
Recently, Goon48 posted a story stating that NCHC Officiating has to be better. He makes a few points, but he also states a few unrealistic solutions. In a perfect world, is solutions would be right on and we'd not read my post, but here goes.
Clear the Bridge, DIVE DIVE DIVE!!!!
Diving has been a problem in hockey for quite some time. It's also a problem in basketball (though in my opinion, that's because toughness is hard to come by in the NBA). But the same issues in basketball officiating falls on hockey officials as well. If the ref isn't going to call it, why not do it?
Your job is to provide your team with a competitive edge. Diving becomes more enticing if you are the "little guy" as well. If your team isn't playing so hot, or if your team, in this matchup is the "butter" and the opponent is the "hot knife," then you have to even the field somehow. In the WCHA, Greg Shepherd quietly pushed for situational officiating to help even the field (The WCHA called it "parity"). If you flop a bit and the ref responds in your favor, then it's going to happen again until it is called or the game ends. Whichever comes first.
And even then, it isn't black and white. It's hard to determine the difference between being crushed in an illegal hit, or pulling an act similar to a Looney Tune character undergoing a cartoony death scene. Some officials buffer this insecurity in the call by calling offsetting penalties.
So Goon sponsors post game punitive measures including suspensions and perhaps fines of coaches. I'm not so sure fining coaches would be effective. I remember how Mike Eaves (UW) had everyone convinced that Robbie Earl fell easier than most because he skates on his toes. How would the NCHC (or B1G in the case of UW) prove that Eaves' assertion was incorrect?
Also, 1 game suspensions for something that normally would be a 2 minute minor is a bit over the top. There are complicated solutions like banning the player for a period. There isn't a good solution to this issue.
The best I could see would be an officiating directive issued after the game towards the following week's officials stating that X Player dove in the last contest and, should question arise as to whether diving is occurring, err on the side that diving did occur. So, if the ref feels that it could have been diving, then it was and the penalty is called and the infraction that caused the dive is erased. Like I said: too complicated.
Video Review of Major Penalties
I like this, but I'd use the same rule as they do in targetting penalties in college football. If a major penalty is called that could warrant ejection, then the replay is made and a decision is made via review.
What cannot happen is a missed call occurring and the ref going back "in time" to review the hit and making a call that way. It makes things too messy. Also, if that were the case, why have officials anyways. Just have ARs to drop the puck and call icing or offsides and that's it. Do the rest via video review. Too much.
On-Ice Officials quality
I think that here's where I deviate the most. I love the NHL situation room format with reviews, but the NCHC doesn't have that kind of money. If they did, they'd have one.
I also believe that the league should be SEMI transparent. I do not believe the league owes the fans anything in terms of explanations, but they DO owe the member institutions involved. For the waved off goal, for example, I do not think we as fans or Goon or whomever is owed anything. However, Hakstol does deserve an explanation. The same goes with disciplinary action. Hakstol could choose to divulge the results if he wants to (and so could the league) but there should not be an expectation to beyond that of "the league has taken discilinary action against those involved."
The truth is, though, on ice officials DO need to be better and with that comes paperwork. I think evals should be filled out by coaching staffs after every weekend's matches evaluating the officials. If complaints arise, then this is the time for them to be aired. They can submit questionable calls (every game is recorded so they could state the circumstances and the approximate game time that the situation occurred for further review). They can also request that the official officiate their games more often or less often.
Goon's World Extras
- Goon's World
- UND Hockey Schedule 2024-25
- MU vs. UND in Pictures
- WMU vs. UND in Pictures
- Army vs. UND in Pictures
- Minnesota State vs. UND in PIctures
- Miami University vs UND in Pictures.
- UND vs. BSU in Photos
- Examples of the Quality of NCHC.TV
- CC and UND in pictures
- UA vs. UND in Pictures
- UND Hockey Roster 2023-24
Friday, February 20, 2015
Friday before the Storm Links
It's crunch time, the final push to the NCAA playoffs. Selection Sunday, the regionals... Some college hockey teams are fighting for their playoff lives. This is is the best time o the year.
UND vs. WMU, A Series Preview http://t.co/12v2VI0O0p pic.twitter.com/V9WR96FANc
— The Hockey Writers (@TheHockeyWriter) February 20, 2015
NCHC Hockey: Officiating Has to Be Better http://t.co/QFZJ4W5DPf pic.twitter.com/8YOCdXQukO
— The Hockey Writers (@TheHockeyWriter) February 18, 2015
@davidlukeramsey opines on #GoldPan series: http://t.co/xYCbBqq8KV #DUvsCC @csgazette @TheNCHC #collegehockey #NCAAHockey #NCHCHockey
— Joe Paisley (@Paisleyhockey) February 20, 2015
As part of #HWAA, today is #HockeyJerseyDay. Here's our favorite jerseys! Whose sweater are you sporting today? pic.twitter.com/HXqtqQXJDF
— The NCHC (@TheNCHC) February 20, 2015
.@DUCoachMonty and the Pios are on the ice at Magness Arena for today's morning skate! #DUGameDay #DU1NATION #DUvsCC pic.twitter.com/pem6aI4rgz
— Denver Hockey (@DU_Hockey) February 20, 2015
Andrew MacWilliam on the ice at morning skate after his first NHL recall. #TMLtalk pic.twitter.com/gccpVpqveI
— Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs) February 20, 2015
Details on MacWilliam's recall are available here → http://t.co/imCAlk0vzA #TMLtalk pic.twitter.com/47lQGgMxDC
— Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs) February 19, 2015
Includes F Luke Johnson. #Blackhawks RT @SBNCollegePuck: The second installment of our Top NHL Prospects list: #81-90 http://t.co/cgqmh4wC42
— North Dakota MHockey (@UNDmhockey) February 20, 2015
Thursday, February 19, 2015
Big Ten Mulling 'Year of Readiness'
This is a horrible idea and couldn't see college hockey adopting this silly rule. a rule like this would cause big ticket recruits to do to Major Junior and bypass college hockey altogether.
I think this is a horrible idea for football and basketball as well.
I think this is a horrible idea for football and basketball as well.
Adam Rittenberg, ESPN.com -- The Big Ten is seeking feedback from its members about the possibility of making freshmen athletes ineligible for competition as they adjust to college life.
In a statement to ESPN.com, the league says it is gauging interest from its members about a "national discussion regarding a year of readiness for student-athletes."
The league has provided background to its members about such a step but has made no official proposal at this point.
The Big Ten has provided background to its members about the possibility of making freshmen athletes ineligible for competition as they adjust to college life but has made no official proposal at this point.
The Diamondback, the student newspaper at Maryland, reported Thursday that the Big Ten is circulating a document titled, "A Year of Readiness," which explores making freshmen in football and men's basketball ineligible for competition.
Tuesday, February 17, 2015
Alex Ovechkin Hits, Slashes Kris Letang, Scrums Develop
Exciting game in Pittsburgh tonight. Washington Capitals forward slashed Pittsburgh Penguins defenseman Kris Letang on the back of the legs and then Letang blew a tire. It was kind of an odd the way that things transpired. Letang has returned to the game.
Should there have been a penalty on Ovie?
Bedlam here in the 'Burgh. Pens losing their cool and refs losing control. #Caps would be wise to take advantage, if they're able. #CapsPens
— Mike Vogel (@VogsCaps) February 18, 2015
Monday, February 16, 2015
Biddco and RWD Your NCHC Fans of the Week
Congrats to our co-@SportNgin #NCHCFan of the Week, @Biddco & @runwiththedogs, who saw the #FFTrophyTour @UMDHockey pic.twitter.com/U6f4lvg4Gq
— The NCHC (@TheNCHC) February 17, 2015
I couldn't resist this one.
Big Buff Smokes Luke Gazdic
Check out this legal, hard, crisp shoulder-to-shoulder check by Winnipeg Jets defenseman Dustin Byfuglien. Big Buff absolutely blows up Luke Gazdic wth a monster check. I hurt just watching the video.
the thing with buff and that hit, really, who is gonna fight him? he's untouchable. can do whatever he wants #nhljets
— gary lawless (@garylawless) February 17, 2015
USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
February
16, 2015
Team
|
(First
Place Votes)
|
Record
|
Points
|
Last
Poll
|
|
1
|
North Dakota
|
(35)
|
20-
6-3
|
980
|
2
|
2
|
Minnesota State
|
(10)
|
23-
6-2
|
909
|
1
|
3
|
Boston University
|
19-
5-4
|
902
|
3
|
|
4
|
Michigan Tech
|
(
5)
|
24-
7-1
|
856
|
5
|
5
|
Nebraska-Omaha
|
17-
8-3
|
798
|
4
|
|
6
|
Miami
|
18-
9-1
|
752
|
7
|
|
7
|
Minnesota-Duluth
|
18-11-1
|
693
|
6
|
|
8
|
Bowling Green
|
18-
7-5
|
617
|
8
|
|
9
|
Denver
|
16-10-2
|
557
|
9
|
|
10
|
Boston College
|
18-10-2
|
528
|
10
|
|
11
|
Quinnipiac
|
20-
8-2
|
526
|
13
|
|
12
|
Providence
|
18-10-2
|
466
|
11
|
|
13
|
Yale
|
15-
7-3
|
362
|
15
|
|
14
|
Harvard
|
13-
8-3
|
336
|
14
|
|
15
|
Michigan
|
16-10-0
|
258
|
12
|
|
16
|
Massachusetts-Lowell
|
17-10-4
|
248
|
16
|
|
17
|
Minnesota
|
16-
9-3
|
237
|
NR
|
|
18
|
Vermont
|
17-11-2
|
183
|
17
|
|
19
|
Robert Morris
|
20-
5-5
|
131
|
18
|
|
20
|
St. Lawrence
|
16-11-3
|
39
|
20
|
|
Others receiving votes:
Northeastern 29, Penn State 27, Colgate 23, St. Cloud State 22, Bentley 6,
Merrimack 6, Bemidji State 3, Western Michigan 3, Notre Dame 2, Mercyhurst 1.
|
I wonder if there will be streamer and balloons in the UND coaches’
office today. J
Sunday, February 15, 2015
NCHC Hockey: Two Reviews, One Wrong, One Right
When the NCHC was formed, the league was going to do things better. That was one of the premises of breaking away from the WCHA schools. That status quo was no longer acceptable and needed to be changed.
One of the big selling points of hiring head of officials Don Adam was that the NCHC was going to work on training their on-ice officials. Almost two years into this new league, the NCHC is still plagued by many of the same issues that were front and center in the in the old WCHA. You have a great on-ice product that's officiated by sub-standard officials.
In my opinion, the NCHC has officials that shouldn't be reffing games at this level. This past weekend, NCHC officials Timm Walsh, Nick Krebsbach were absolutely brutal. Words can't explain what transpired. So, you have a video to watch.
First, you have a legitimate goal that should have counted. As you can see by watching the video, that the puck was clearly over the line.
There's no reason that goal shouldn't have counted. Watch the video, the puck was clearly over the line and in the net. The argument of the ref was going to blow the whistle, doesn't cut it in this instance.You have a puck that's not frozen and in play. If the refs were going to blow the whistle, there's no reason to spend five minutes reviewing the play. Right?
The second play, the puck is clearly not in the net and the refs take quite a bit of time to review the play.
One of the big selling points of hiring head of officials Don Adam was that the NCHC was going to work on training their on-ice officials. Almost two years into this new league, the NCHC is still plagued by many of the same issues that were front and center in the in the old WCHA. You have a great on-ice product that's officiated by sub-standard officials.
In my opinion, the NCHC has officials that shouldn't be reffing games at this level. This past weekend, NCHC officials Timm Walsh, Nick Krebsbach were absolutely brutal. Words can't explain what transpired. So, you have a video to watch.
First, you have a legitimate goal that should have counted. As you can see by watching the video, that the puck was clearly over the line.
There's no reason that goal shouldn't have counted. Watch the video, the puck was clearly over the line and in the net. The argument of the ref was going to blow the whistle, doesn't cut it in this instance.You have a puck that's not frozen and in play. If the refs were going to blow the whistle, there's no reason to spend five minutes reviewing the play. Right?
The second play, the puck is clearly not in the net and the refs take quite a bit of time to review the play.
Saturday, February 14, 2015
UND vs. DU lines - Update On Student Who Interupted Moment of Silence
Also, update on the student that so rudely and selfishly interrupted the moment of silence last night. He's banned from the Ralph for the rest of the season. That's a good start. He was also cited for minor in possession.
Mutual respect is the cornerstone of any great rivalry; proud to have UND as 1 of our biggest rivals & appreciate their support this weekend
— Denver Hockey (@DU_Hockey) February 14, 2015
@jackbreen94 don't Apologize to me. Apologize to @DUCoachMonty @DU_Hockey.
— Drake Caggiula (@drakecaggiula) February 14, 2015
I'm told that the person who yelled during the moment of silence yesterday was immediately ejected from the building by security.
— Brad E. Schlossman (@SchlossmanGF) February 14, 2015
That fan also has been banned from the building for the remainder of the year.
— Brad E. Schlossman (@SchlossmanGF) February 14, 2015
Related articles
- UND Hockey: Moron Ruins Moment of Silence at the Ralph(ndgoon.blogspot.com)
- North Dakota and Denver set to Battle(insidehockey.com)
UND Hockey: Moron Ruins Moment of Silence at the Ralph
Tonight, during the pre-game ceremony, the UND hockey team and the REA had a moment of silence to honor DU head coach Jim Montgomery who lost his father earlier in the day. During the moment of silence for coach Montgomery, some, buffoon/moron from the student section decided to yell drunken barrage of profanity.
I hope this clown learned something tonight, have some class. It's not always about you. You disgraced the University. As an alumnus of the University of North Dakota, I am embarrassed.
That person/moron that did this should be ashamed of themselves. You're stupidity and selfishness makes us look like a bunch of beer swilling, unwashed morons. Absolutely disgusting. They should ban you from the Ralph for the rest of the year. I agree with the UND players, what moron.
And to the idiot that yelled during the moment of silence. Give your head a shake. And never enter the Ralph again.
— Drake Caggiula (@drakecaggiula) February 14, 2015
Deepest condolences to Coach Montgomery! Thoughts and prayers with you and your family. #hockeyfamily
— Drake Caggiula (@drakecaggiula) February 14, 2015
(3/3) Unnecessary words. That is not how we conduct ourselves here. Sorry @DU_Hockey, and we are extremely sorry for your loss.
— Mark MacMillan (@EasyMac_16) February 14, 2015
(2/3) We respect the moment of silence offered at the Ralph today and are sincerely sorry about the individual that decided to shout some...
— Mark MacMillan (@EasyMac_16) February 14, 2015
(1/3) Wins and losses aside, the hockey community is a close family. On behalf of @UNDmhockey, our deepest condolences to @DUCoachMonty...
— Mark MacMillan (@EasyMac_16) February 14, 2015
Friday, February 13, 2015
NCHC Hockey: A look at the Standings
The standing will probably change a few times before the season is over, you can bet on it. But UND takes the lead for now. Stay tuned, developing.
UND vs. DU Game One Lines - Links
Pretty much the same lines as last time out.
UND and DU Set to Faceoff http://t.co/DABryDmbwz pic.twitter.com/nWno12njb4
— The Hockey Writers (@TheHockeyWriter) February 12, 2015
North Dakota vs. Denver, A Series Preview - http://t.co/VOr88BmWoT #NHL pic.twitter.com/45th78CNZF
— THW Hockey (@HockeyLinks) February 13, 2015
Fans can vote for UND's Mark MacMillan and Nick Mattson for the Senior CLASS Award: http://t.co/I7EkM1C16R #UNDproud pic.twitter.com/sWqcdUhBZb
— North Dakota MHockey (@UNDmhockey) February 13, 2015
http://t.co/e4GQr5zK1P has a piece on Brock Boeser's commitment to UND http://t.co/RGWU1DVma5
— Brad E. Schlossman (@SchlossmanGF) February 13, 2015
During Jim's absence, we have the utmost confidence in Dave Carle's ability to lead our student-athletes this weekend as they face UND (2/2)
— Ryan Peck (@Ryan_Peck) February 13, 2015
UND vs. DU weekend, Friday Morning Links
DU head coach Jim Montgomery tweeted this today on Twitter. Our thoughts and prayers go to him and his family. Per the Denver Pioneers: Dave Carle will be serving as Denver's head coach this evening following the loss of James Montgomery, Sr., 80, in Montreal this morning.
UND vs. DU, College Hockey’s Hatfields and McCoys
DU Pioneers' Nolan Zajac eagerly awaiting series at North Dakota
First, the Fargo West Regional is sold out, the NCAA won't need to make adjustment for attendance. Also, Michigan more than likely, will be going to the Midwest Regional in South Bend, Indiana. You can probably bet on that one. Five weeks out, and we can make some geographical swaps with regional attendance in mind
Of course they are... Right? Notre Dame Coach Jeff Jackson Denies Hockey East Exit Rumors
B.C. Interruption: NCAA Hockey Bracketology, February 12, 2015
More challenges ahead for Mavericks
Red Star and Sickle: Minnesota Duluth women's hockey coach Shannon Miller says dismissal violates Title IX
THA Schloss is predicting 5of-6 points for UND this weekend: Friday morning reading
Stoney Sioux: Friday Gameday: No Love Loss
UND Hockey Teams Feature Two Outstanding Goaltenders
The man who impacted my life the most has passed away. I will miss our daily phone calls and the wisdom and love you gave me. Love you Dad
— Jim Montgomery (@DUCoachMonty) February 13, 2015
Hockey Links
North Dakota vs. Denver, A Series PreviewUND vs. DU, College Hockey’s Hatfields and McCoys
DU Pioneers' Nolan Zajac eagerly awaiting series at North Dakota
First, the Fargo West Regional is sold out, the NCAA won't need to make adjustment for attendance. Also, Michigan more than likely, will be going to the Midwest Regional in South Bend, Indiana. You can probably bet on that one. Five weeks out, and we can make some geographical swaps with regional attendance in mind
Of course they are... Right? Notre Dame Coach Jeff Jackson Denies Hockey East Exit Rumors
B.C. Interruption: NCAA Hockey Bracketology, February 12, 2015
More challenges ahead for Mavericks
Red Star and Sickle: Minnesota Duluth women's hockey coach Shannon Miller says dismissal violates Title IX
THA Schloss is predicting 5of-6 points for UND this weekend: Friday morning reading
Stoney Sioux: Friday Gameday: No Love Loss
UND Hockey Teams Feature Two Outstanding Goaltenders
Thursday, February 12, 2015
UND Gets Highly Sought Recruit Brock Boeser
Today, the University of North Dakota got some very good news on the recruiting front. Brock Boeser from Minnesota has committed to UND. Boeser is a highly sought recruit and was also considering Wisconsin, Minnesota-Duluth and Minnesota. (Elite Prospects)
“@BBoeser16: Really excited to play college hockey at the University of North Dakota." Huge get for NoDak; great 2015 draft prospect
— Ryan Kennedy (@THNRyanKennedy) February 13, 2015
Really excited to play college hockey at the University of North Dakota. Can't wait to call this place home! #sioux pic.twitter.com/TaSgLypiiW
— Brock Boeser (@BBoeser16) February 13, 2015
UND set to Take on Pioneers
Gwozdecky is gone, rivalry is not
While you’re checking out some of those YouTube videos, you’ll probably find a video of head coach George Gwozdecky walking across the ice after getting kicked out of a game.
While coach Gwozdecky is no longer at Denver, he wasn’t re-signed after the 2012-13 season. The rivalry hasn’t cooled off in his absence.
If you look over the record books, you will see that there’s a lot of history between the two teams. In their last 15 games against the Pioneers, UND has a 9-5-1 record. Four of those games have been in the playoffs. UND won all four games.
Historically, the games have been entertaining and full of drama. The players from both teams love playing in the series. It’s one of those series that the UND players look forward to playing in.
“I think it’s such a great rivalry between two programs,” sophomore defenseman Troy Stecher said. “It’s an up paced game. Their D-Core is pretty offensive. We like to think that our D-Core can jump up in the play as well. I think it’s going to be a weekend of chances going back and forth.”
“It’s a tradition I think or a history thing,” senior caption Steph Pattyn said. “It’s definitely a rivalry. Something that has always been. A lot of it has to do with the history of the two programs. Denver is a good program. The coaches definitely instill in us to go hard this weekend.”
UND vs. DU, College Hockey's Hatfields and McCoys - http://t.co/ys06MZTB4D #NHL pic.twitter.com/R1pqBlI13p
— THW Hockey (@HockeyLinks) February 12, 2015
The Pios are practicing at Joy Burns Arena this morning prior to making the trek to North Dakota later today #DUvsUND pic.twitter.com/QaSgcrrEko
— Denver Hockey (@DU_Hockey) February 12, 2015
Wednesday, February 11, 2015
UND Hockey: Dave Hakstol mic'd up
I am not so sure that head coach Dave Hakstol would have done this 10 year ago, or even five years ago. I still watch with interest as Hakstol is interviewed on the bench during a hockey game.
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