Showing posts with label Big Sky Conference. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Big Sky Conference. Show all posts

Thursday, August 11, 2011

Al Carlson on the law suit...

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This article by ESPN is worth a read if you haven't seen it. As mentioned earlier, no one has a clue on who is paying for this law suit, it's hardly unlikely the students mention are paying for this lawsuit. It would be nice to have some transparency and know who is footing the bill on this lawsuit. I am sure that information will come out in the near future.
ESPN.COM --- Some state leaders and UND President Robert Kelley are scheduled to meet with NCAA executives Friday in Indianapolis. Republican House Majority Leader Al Carlson, of Fargo, questioned the timing of the lawsuit and said it represents a handful of people with out-of-state interests.

"You've got a New York attorney. It was nice of them to keep it local," Carlson said. "We understand why it was done. It's a small group. My job is to represent the majority of North Dakotans.

"I think there has been a lot of discussion already and tomorrow we are going to make the case why we think the Fighting Sioux nickname should be retained," he said of Friday's meeting.

Fredericks said the timing of the lawsuit is related to the fact that the settlement agreement dictated that the nickname be officially retired Monday, and not because of the meeting with NCAA officials.

"The meeting that is happening on Friday is because of the Monday deadline," she said.

The truth shall set you free…

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This little nugget was found on Dustin Monke's blog, the Sports Editor of The Dickinson Press, I asked the question earlier today; “who is paying for this lawsuit?” There is a bigger entity out there than eight former students driving this lawsuit. That is the question people should be asking is, who is driving this lawsuit, and why now?

I highly doubt that these eight students in question have the money to retain a high priced lawyer of Sanford Dumain's stature, and now we find out that they also have a P.R. firm as well, someone else is footing the bill.

Six UND Indian students file federal lawsuit over Fighting Sioux nickname

North Dakota Fighting Sioux men's ice hockeyImage via WikipediaIn reading the newspaper articles I have gleaned that six students from the University of North Dakota of Native American decent that aren't Sioux (Nakota, Lakota, Dakota), have filed a law suit in Federal Court against Gov. Jack Dalrymple, Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem, the state of North Dakota, the North Dakota state Board of Higher Education and the University of North Dakota.

The Students' attorney in question is Sanford Dumain of the New York law firm Milberg LLP. Like Rob Port the first question that I asked myself is; who is paying for this lawsuit? That's the bigger question that people should be asking. I highly doubt that these six students have the money to retain a lawyer of Sanford Dumain's stature, someone is footing the bill.

According the the Bismarck Tribune the Students are claiming that the new law to retain the Fighting Sioux nickname violates their 14th Amendment. Which will probably be hard to prove and it will be interesting to see if the group even has standing to sue. What are they going to claim that they are being deprived of life, liberty and or property?
The complaint alleges the legislation violates the state Constitution, because the Board of Higher Education is supposed to make such decisions rather than the Legislature, and violates a court-ordered settlement directing the name be changed which was reached by the NCAA, the state and the Board of Higher Education. The students also allege the new law violates their 14th Amendment rights in that the name and logo are harmful and disparaging to Native Americans.
Links to the paper work filed (Civil Cover Sheet) and (Complaint and Jury Trial Demand)


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Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Is it time to stand and fight or give up the Fighting Sioux nickname.

North Dakota Fighting Sioux men's ice hockeyImage via WikipediaSomeone posted this article on Twitter and I don't think the meeting with the NCAA is going to do a thing. I can't see the NCAA changing their mind. There is no way that UND can sue the NCAA in court and I don't want UND to lose it's conference membership in the Big Sky Conference.  I want to be able to watch UND and Montana State University or the University of Montana in FCS football.  I am not going spend $25.00 dollars to watch a football game with UND against some crappy Division II team that they will blow out 55-0.  
GRAND FORKS, N.D. -- North Dakota political leaders are asking the NCAA to back off and let the state's flagship university keep its Fighting Sioux name and logo, even at the risk of potential blacklisting and scorn by other universities and its own conference.

Lawmaker involvement is a strategy even some University of North Dakota boosters question, and is unique among schools forced to decide whether to drop American Indian nicknames deemed hostile and abusive or accept penalties for keeping them.

Fighting Sioux logo Some legislators have said they resent the nickname being characterized as hostile and abusive because the name and logo are treated with respect. Others have said the change is being rammed down their throats by the NCAA.

North Dakota's debate appeared to be resolved when the state Board of Higher Education agreed in 2009 to drop the Fighting Sioux logo and nickname and UND agreed to phase them out by this Aug. 15.
When I read this I have to wonder what Al Carlson thinks the NCAA is going to say? I can't see the NCAA telling the North Dakota delegation on August 12th, ah go ahead and keep the Fighting Sioux nickname, That is not going to happen and most of us know this. 
The meeting was rescheduled for Aug. 12, just three days before the NCAA intends to impose sanctions on UND for the continued use of the Fighting Sioux nickname and a logo.

"We're looking for a final kind of clarity," school spokesman Peter Johnson said.

UND has not yet formed a committee to recommend a new logo. Rep. Al Carlson, the Fargo Republican who pushed for the new state law, said he's holding out hope the NCAA will reconsider.

"I think we have to explain to them why we passed the law," Carlson said.

History is not on UND's side.
I agree that History is not on our side. I am one of the biggest fans of the Fighting Sioux nickname there will ever be, I don’t want to change the Fighting Sioux nickname because the handing wringing p.c. liberal’s will have won the war without any fight from our elected leaders. I am also not happy that political correctness has stuck it’s nose in the University of North Dakota’s business and told us that our logo is “hostile and abusive” it’s not right and political correctness is ruining this once great nation.  We have become a nation of whining ninny’s that think we have a God given right to not be offended. If a small group of people is offended by something we have to change it to appease these groups.
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Thursday, July 21, 2011

Will the Gophers want to duck the Sioux?

A faceoff between the University of North Dako...Image via WikipediaHere is my Thursday afternoon discussion; I have been thinking about this subject and I am throwing out there for discussion purposes. I decided to expound on the subject after seeing the story linked below from yesterday's St. Cloud Times.

I do believe that the Minnesota Golden Gophers hockey team is going to want to play the UND Fighting Sioux on a regular basis for financial reasons, it's advantageous to both programs to continue the storied rivalry, next to the Badgers, the UND Fighting Sioux are one of the top rivals of the Minnesota Golden Gopher's, it's a fact. Before you throw the Fighting Sioux nickname out there, the nick name issue will be resolved before the NCHC conference plays it's first game (just a prediction, UND is not going to give up a chance to pay in the Big Sky Conference). I don't care what the so called self described experts say, (I am sure we know who these people are), UMN needs UND too. Let's not kid ourselves, UND is going to sell more tickets than a match up against OSU, MSU-M and or SCSU.
Mick Hatton; Saint Cloud Times --- The University of Minnesota men’s hockey team is in preliminary discussions with St. Cloud State, Bemidji State and Minnesota State-Mankato about playing nonconference games and a tournament both on an annual basis, according to Gophers coach Don Lucia.

Lucia said he has talked with Huskies coach Bob Motzko, Beavers coach Tom Serratore and Mavericks coach Troy Jutting about the Gophers playing games against their programs beginning in 2013-14, which is the first season that the Gophers and Wisconsin leave the Western Collegiate Hockey Association for the Big Ten Conference.

Lucia also said that he plans to talk with Minnesota-Duluth coach Scott Sandelin about the same arrangement with the Bulldogs, who also leave the WCHA after the 2012-13 season and will join the newly formed National Collegiate Hockey Conference.

“We have 14 nonleague games to work with and our goal is to play those (four) teams every year,” Lucia said. “It would be good for our program, all the other programs and for the state of Minnesota.

“I think it’s a win-win for everyone, for our fans and the proximity of playing each other. We should continue playing each other.”
So when the nickname issue is worked out do you think the Gophers and Sioux will play on a "semi-regular" basis? I do, because it's beneficial to both parties.
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Thursday, June 23, 2011

Bismarck Tribune - Drop the 'Fighting Sioux'

Seal of the University of North DakotaImage via WikipediaThe Bismarck Tribune editorial board came out with this stance on the Fighting Sioux logo. Can't say that I was shocked by their response, seems to be popular to pile on now.

I want to address one point in this editorial; you don't just pick "a new nickname and logo," the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo has been part of UND's history for 80+ years you can't just go Willy Nilly and pick a new nickname and logo without putting some serious thought into the process.  This is how you end up with a really stupid replacement nickname and logo.
Bismarck Tribune - Robert Kelley, University of North Dakota president, said Monday it's time for the school to drop the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo.

He is right.

But here's the big question. Does he have the wherewithal to get the job done? We think he does, we support his efforts and we wish him success.

Personal preference to keep or drop those two words and image - Fighting Sioux - pales in comparison with what is best for UND students. The protracted controversy from polarized camps has gone on far too long. Damage has been done. More will follow. But it shouldn't be hard to weigh the options.

Pick a new nickname and logo, deal with some angst for an undetermined period of time and create an atmosphere ultimately conducive to university and student athletic success.

Continue use of the nickname and logo, deal with everlasting angst from the NCAA, and create an atmosphere that severely impacts the university and student athletic success.

Forget about "who" makes the decision. It's time to put egos aside and do the right thing - and UND President Kelley should be the point man.

It's time for Native Americans in support of the name and logo to defer to their brothers and sisters who have been, and are, offended by what they believe to be a hostile environment. Indians can lead by continuing a long tradition of love, understanding and service to one another, by focusing on the greater good.

It's time for arrogant legislators to stop controlling and micro-managing. They are not leading by continuing to ask for meetings with the NCAA to defend their silly and defiant actions, pomp-and-circumstance votes commanding continued use of the nickname and logo.

It's time for those legislators to show leadership by admitting their mistake and committing to lightening the heavy burden they wrongfully placed on UND and its students - and November's special redistricting session isn't soon enough.

It's time for the Board of Higher Education to lead by backing President Kelley, at whatever cost, at restarting the transition process that had begun, making it possible to move past the nickname and logo conflict.

And, it's time for the NCAA, and Big Sky Conference, to acknowledge those efforts by then showing leadership by welcoming and helping UND move forward to university and student athletic success.

Consider what is best for students and it isn't an ongoing controversy over a nickname.

Now is the time for leadership - not showmanship.


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Tuesday, June 21, 2011

NCAA Ice hockey panel clarifies rules

University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux athl...Image via WikipediaThis was tweeted over on twitter. The NCAA Ice Hockey Committee looked to clarify the rule regarding head shots. It’s good that the NCAA is going to look at this rule more closely. I do see one problem with this clarification though; it’s going to take more legal hitting out of the college hockey game. This could in essence take a lot of the open ice hits out of the game of college hockey, I would be willing to bet we will see shoulder to shoulder contact penalized.
Ty Halpin; NCAA.org ---- The committee did approve several items of guidance for officials to build on the successful implementation of its rules for contact to the head.

“Progress was certainly made this season,” said Ed McLaughlin, athletics director at Niagara University and chair of the committee. “We are adding some additional guidance to support what is already in our rules in the hope that players, coaches and officials can better understand expectations with this rule.”

In some cases, officials were hesitant to enforce the contact to the head because they were unsure if a player had clearly “targeted” an opponent. The committee reinforced that targeting is not a prerequisite for this rule to be used.

Added to the examples of the type of play the committee hopes to remove are players who are reckless, players who are about to receive a pass and direct contact to the head or neck area from any direction. This additional guidance joins several other bullet points already printed in the rules book.

The committee also points the hockey community to language that already appears in the rules book: “A player delivering a check to an unsuspecting and vulnerable player puts themselves in jeopardy of being penalized under this rule.”

“We believe our rule is the most robust and aggressive in ice hockey,” McLaughlin said. “What we saw this year was a good start. We’re trying to take any doubt out of this call and help officials who have only one game-speed view of a play to determine how to officiate this play. We realize this is a big penalty and a serious one, but this approach has worked with hitting from behind and we believe it will work here to adjust player behavior.”
Also from the NCAA Ice Hockey Rules Comittee, elbellishmet is also going to be another area of emphasis, I applaud that decision, “Diving and embellishment erode the integrity of our game and must be eliminated.” I say right on! Hockey in North America is starting to look like European Soccer with all of the diving, if you think I am off the mark, go back and re-watch the 2011 Stanley Cup playoffs again, there was so much diving in the games that the refs got to a point where they couldn’t tell if a player was diving or not and many times failed to call a penalty. Also, not to points fingers but the players of Garrett Roe and Jacob Cepis' ilk, you're on notice, the refs are going to be watching you… Diving is ruining hockey of all levels. Seriously, real hockey players aren't frauds and they don't dive.
Embellishment/diving

In addition to the contact to the head and general emphasis on player safety, the committee received feedback from the coaching community that embellishment/diving seems to be a growing issue. The committee voted to make this a point of emphasis for the upcoming season and plans to include several video examples during preseason clinics.

“Diving and embellishment erode the integrity of our game and must be eliminated,” McLaughlin said. “Trying to deceive officials is unethical and unsporting. This has to be a collaborative effort to make progress.”

The committee decided to provide guidance regarding obstruction along the boards, where the defensive tactic of pressing and releasing an opponent should be allowed, but impeding is not. Again, additional video examples will be used to encourage consistent application of these rules.

Finally, the group points attention again to rules that deal with facewashing, which typically occurs after a stoppage in play. Continued and stringent enforcement of these rules is needed to improve the image of the game.
In case you’re one of the ten people that hasn’t seen it, here is the official press release from the NC$$ on the Fighting Sioux nickname. As you can see the NCAA is not budging and they will probably not change their mind.
NCAA statement on North Dakota mascot issueThe NCAA’s Native American mascot policy remains in effect, and we stand ready to assist the University of North Dakota with its implementation of the policy.

The Big Sky Conference’s position related to the university's Fighting Sioux nickname and logo is consistent with the spirit and intent of the settlement agreement the NCAA reached with the university to retire the nickname and logo.

We have made clear to both the conference and the university that the NCAA has no intention of changing its position.

If the University of North Dakota continues to use the nickname and logo past the August 15 deadline due to state law, it will be subject to the parameters of the policy. This means the university could not host any championships or use the nickname and logo at any championship events.
If you have read this blog for any length of time you will know that I am a big time supporter of the Fighting Sioux nickname. In the future, I plan on getting a Fighting Sioux logo permanently tattooed to my body… It’s the opinion of this writer that the University of North Dakota will never be able to replace this great logo with anything remotely cool. I also believe that we are destined to replace the Fighting Sioux logo with some stupid moniker that will be in essence a capitulation to the people that were offended by the Fighting Sioux logo and nickname.

Moving forward, I also don’t have any faith in the current president of the University of North Dakota, President Robert Kelley is part of the problem, he is a hand wringing liberal elite from the University of Berkley in California who wants to shove his political correctness and beliefs down our throat. That being said I do believe this is the end of the Fighting Sioux nickname, I see no way that it stays past this season.
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No joke, North Dakota should go with Suhaki

Bloggin with Scroggin
I am going to say no thank you... I have seen this blog post a few times, yeah, I know it's an old article it was written back in January.  I haven't really said much about this subject but I think this is a horrible idea in my opinion. None-the-less, I am sure with the recent revelations this past week this idea will be thrown around again by some to see if it sticks to the wall. It would work for hockey but it's not really user friendly for the rest of UND's programs.
Bloggin with Scroggin --- know this movement started as a humorous nonviolent protest, but seriously, I think North Dakota has something here.

Suhak. It’s a central Asian hoofed mammal (similar to an antelope) whose Wikipedia entry you have to translate from Polish.

And the plural form is Suhaki (pronounced “Sioux Hockey”).

Let me catch you up. The Cal Poly football team has been playing North Dakota since the Fighting Sioux joined the Great West Conference for the past couple of years. The teams will play again in 2011 and will continue to be conference mates when both make the switch to the Big Sky in 2012.

The past two times the Mustangs played North Dakota, the team was known as the Fighting Sioux. The next time, it’ll simply be North Dakota. The lack of a nickname going forward is the result of a years-long battle between the university and the NCAA, which has deemed Fighting Sioux offensive enough to threaten North Dakota with a postseason ban for continued use.

When it couldn’t get enough support from the two local Sioux tribes in the state, North Dakota decided to drop the name and will be going without a mascot for at least one year.

As someone who has annual contact with North Dakota, I’ve had the Sioux nickname conversation with others a few times, and I haven’t heard any good ideas for a substitute mascot — until this week.
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Monday, June 20, 2011

UND's Kelley: Time to change nickname, logo, 'move beyond' issue

Big Sky Map.Image via WikipediaI have two questions for University of Fighting Sioux sports fans; is UND president Dr. Robert Kelley a puppet of the NCAA? In looking at the events surrounding the Big Sky's announcement that the Fighting Sioux nickname could be a problem, it's just seems a little fishy to me... My next question is did Dr. Kelley pressure the Big Sky Conference to  come out against UND's use of the Fighting Sioux nickname? 

Herald Staff; Grand Forks Herald --- Kelley, speaking via telephone on KFGO Radio's "News and Views" program, says he believes the North Dakota Legislature should use a planned November special session for legislative redistricting to also reconsider its new law mandating the Sioux nickname and logo, KFGO's website reported. The law is set to take effect in mid-August.

"You know, I think the events of the last few days clearly show that, as we move out more and more onto a national stage, both through the NCAA Division I (and) as we work with other universities out-of-state in Big Sky conferencing, very clearly we have to listen to their concerns," Kelley said on the air. He was responding to program host Joel Heitkamp's question about whether the president believes the nickname has to change.

"So, yes," Kelley continued, "I'm going to come right out and say that it's time now for us to move beyond the name and logo issue for the success of the university and for the success of our student athletes."

UND and state leaders are going ahead with plans to meet with the NCAA this summer, possibly in late July, even though the NCAA last week restated it has "no intention of changing its position" about ending the UND's Sioux nickname and logo. Sanctions will apply if the name and logo are in use after Aug. 15," as required in a settlement

Kelley said then he was "not surprised" by the NCAA's statement because that organization has been consistent on its position.
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Saturday, June 18, 2011

NCAA reaffirms: Policy on nicknames unchanged

North Dakota Fighting Sioux men's ice hockeyImage via WikipediaHere is the latest on the Fighting Sioux nickname, the NCAA is unwavering and re-affirmed their opposition to the Fighting Sioux nickname.

I love the Fighting Sioux nickname and I bleed green and white but I am also fed up with political correctness run a muck, none-the-less,  I don't see any way that the University of North Dakota can keep the Fighting Sioux nickname without jeopardizing their Big Sky Conference affiliation and short of the Team North Dakota (Berg, Conrad, Hoeven) getting involved, they have shown no interest what so ever getting involved in the fight, I think the transition away from the Fighting Sioux nickname is a done deal.
Chuck Haga; Grand Forks Herald --- UND and state leaders will go ahead with plans to meet with the NCAA this summer despite the NCAA’s rather forceful restating of its position Friday concerning UND’s Fighting Sioux nickname.

The NCAA declared that it has “no intention of changing its position” and sanctions will apply if the name and logo are still in use after Aug. 15. But the association also has indicated to UND that NCAA leaders would receive a North Dakota delegation to discuss the impasse and provided two possible dates for a meeting in Indianapolis in late July.

UND President Robert Kelley, who confirmed that the NCAA had provided his office with the possible meeting dates, said he was “not surprised by the statement, as the NCAA is consistent in their position.”

“I think the issue now is to get our legislative and executive leaders to talk with the NCAA and see if there’s any final opportunity to turn the NCAA in another direction,” Kelley said.

“They’re trying to be as helpful as they can,” he said, “and they understand the difficulty” of UND’s position, caught between a legal settlement requiring that the nickname be dropped and a state law directing that it be retained.

Citing concerns expressed last week by leaders of the Big Sky Conference, which UND hopes to enter next year, the NCAA statement noted that the conference presidents’ position “is consistent with the spirit and intent of the settlement agreement the NCAA reached with the university (in 2007) to retire the nickname and logo.”

If UND follows the new state law and continues to use the Fighting Sioux nickname and Indian-head logo after Aug. 15, sanctions will be imposed, according to the statement.

Grant Shaft, the newly installed president of the State Board of Higher Education, said the language of the statement “is pretty black and white,” but he also said efforts to arrange a face-to-face meeting with the NCAA will continue.

“This really isn’t a change in what we’ve perceived the NCAA position to be all along,” Shaft said. “Shortly after the legislation (on keeping the name) was passed, their comment was they didn’t think the legislation changed their policy. They now make a more formal statement.

“I still think a meeting will take place between the NCAA officials and the North Dakota contingent because the North Dakota legislative leadership believes very strongly that a face-to-face meeting with the NCAA could change their position.

“However, this statement indicates that possibility is pretty narrow.”
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Sunday, June 12, 2011

Big Sky: ‘UND, we have a problem’

Big Sky Conference logoImage via WikipediaI have been out of pocket for the weekend while I was getting gas in Cando, ND yesterday I found this predictable article on the front of the Grand Forks Herald. Personally, I would've guessed that this article and the letter from the Big Sky would have come earlier.... This is why I think the Fighting Sioux nickname will never make it past next year.
Grand Forks Herald --- Leaders of the Big Sky Conference told UND President Robert Kelley this week that continued use of the Fighting Sioux name and logo as mandated by a new state law has become a “concern” for them and could jeopardize UND’s joining the conference next year.

Furthermore, the ongoing controversy “has the possibility of destroying Division I athletics at the University of North Dakota.”

Writing earlier this week on behalf of the presidents of Big Sky member schools, league Commissioner Douglas Fullerton told Kelley that the presidents “are forced to consider the ramifications of continued use of the ‘Fighting Sioux’ name” and imagery.

“When the University of North Dakota was considered and accepted for membership (on Nov. 1, 2010), this issue was (considered) ‘settled,’ ” Fullerton wrote. “The institution had reached an agreement with the NCAA and the conference accepted that agreement.

“Obviously, today there is a new reality, and the question has to be asked: Could this lead to a time when league play and possibly league membership itself could be affected?”

In a telephone interview Friday, Fullerton said the presidents “were very intense” in discussing UND’s nickname issue with Kelley June 1 and 2 at the Big Sky Conference spring meetings in Park City, Utah.

If the NCAA maintains scheduled sanctions against the school and UND loses its “ability to be a viable NCAA institution, they don’t do us much good as a conference member,” he said.

In his letter, sent Tuesday and received at UND Wednesday, Fullerton also noted that all the other Big Sky schools have relationships with Native American tribes in their regions, “and the presidents feel strongly that if forced to choose, they would support the wishes of the Sioux tribes in this dispute.”

He underscored the point in the telephone interview.

“Our schools have great relationships with tribes in their respective regions,” he said. “There is no way we cannot support the positions of the Native American tribes.”

He was asked whether the continuing controversy could cause the presidents ultimately to reject UND as a Big Sky member.

“Very easily,” Fullerton said.
While I am one of the biggest fans of the Fighting Sioux nickname and I do not want to see the University change the Fighting Sioux nickname; however, I see no way how the University of North Dakota can keep the Fighting Sioux nickname past 2012, the university's of North Dakota's other athletic programs need to have a stable athletic conference they can call a home, if not it would be the same as being a death sentence.

Unless the State of North Dakota can go back and sue the NCAA in court, which is doubtful, I don't see how the NCAA is not going to change their minds on the Fighting Sioux nickname, the organization is run by like minded goody two shoes that have long since decided that if we want to play on their play ground we have to play by these hand wringing liberals' rules. 
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